Canada shares the world's longest undefended border with the United States, stretching nearly 9,000 kilometres (5,525 miles). Beyond their historical relationship as strong trading partners, both countries have many things in common. But that proximity can sometimes have negative effects. It has long been said that when the United States sneezes, Canada catches a cold. This is particularly true for diversity, equity, and inclusion. Far from being the inclusive Utopia many people — including Canadians — imagine Canada to be, there are challenges in how racialized and Indigenous people are treated. For example, like in the U.S., Blacks and other marginalized groups are overrepresented in the criminal justice system. And the so-called “anti-woke” movement targeting DEI is migrating across the undefended border between the two countries. Mary-Frances Winters will explore these similarities and differences in an interview with Hamlin Grange, who will share his unique insights into the challenges facing DEI practitioners in Canada and why Canadians and Americans should work more closely together to create a more inclusive, equitable and harmonious world.